Core Necro Weirdness

Bugz_Toon · 14 Mar 2000, 3:52 PM

Hey- when I installed the Core Necro for the first time (I've since ditched it and gone back to the TADD Soul Reaver), for some unknown reason my Arm Commander could no longer repair or reclaim, but he could resurrect! Also, his D-Gun had been replaced with a Zeus' lightning gun? I reinstalled TA, which took care of it, but has anyone else experienced anything similar?

Razer · 15 Mar 2000, 12:26 AM

Weeelllll. I don;t know how it happened but It works now. If it works stick with it. Don't give up.

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babylon5 · 15 Mar 2000, 1:06 AM

my problem with the necro is that i give it a string of ressurections to do and t would do 1 and then stop and it woulnt fully repair the unit it ressurected

RavenFire · 15 Mar 2000, 2:16 AM

The Rezz code in CC wasn't really finished up, sorry to say. Cavedog probably just said 'to hell with it', and released the Necro despite the flaws. Try rezzing a goliath. You get a Diplomat. Plus, there are some really weird results if you start trying to rezz some of the stuff like Urban buildings, and some of the other CC features... I managed to bluescreen a Win NT machine I was running TA on once rezzing something on the Urban maps (we were using 3rd party units, too, so it may have been one of those).

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Shredder · 15 Mar 2000, 4:11 AM

Hey Babylon5, I've had that problem before too. It seems like what happens is that once the Necro "revives" the unit, which is usually a different size and shape than the corpse, it then is "too close" to the revived unit to do the repair routine so it just sits there! If I then move the Necro away a little bit, it does indeed start repairing the revived unit. How frustrating! Kinda makes queueing up a string of ressurect orders pretty useless. I may be wrong, but that's what it looks like is happening.

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Fade · 15 Mar 2000, 10:30 AM

The necro's repair range is too small. It can't repair larger units. Enter +showranges , like any other code, and you'll see what I mean.

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Viperion · 15 Mar 2000, 10:55 AM

[Shamelessplug]Get Uberhack at www.laughingcrowgraphics.com/BSR It fixes the necro, and a lot of other stuff. [/shamelessplug]

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Dawn Falcon · 15 Mar 2000, 11:41 AM

And for those of you who don't want to go that far, Switech has a mostly fixed (some bugs seem to be with the EXE code...) version of the Necro in his Mostly Harmless v13 AI, which can be downloaded from TAMEC!

I've had even better results with the Necro using the foxed version AND Switech's TA bugfix!

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El Bardi · 15 Mar 2000, 4:41 PM

Yeah, also when you´re tryiing to ressurrect dead Oxigen Tileset Explosive barrels, you can get AK´s and Avengers! also you can try rezz the TADD´s barrier Walls, and they come alive! what strange thingies, also, what Urban stuff is ressurrectable? what appears when you rezz them RavenFire?????????

Razer · 15 Mar 2000, 7:12 PM

I use the Necro and it works perfectly fine. Nothing goes wrong.

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[This message has been edited by Razer (edited March 15, 2000).]

babylon5 · 16 Mar 2000, 12:55 AM

the 3rd party ressurecter woks better
thats what i use now but in tauip for core they only use the necro
cant que up any rezz orders for it
here a number of 3rd party units that ressurect like the omega commander and the core engineer so there are options if u use 3rd party unit

Brave Sir Robin · 16 Mar 2000, 4:07 PM

Quick note to RavenFire: the rezzing-Gols-and-getting-Diplomats problem is a bug in the Goliath, not in the rez code. Check the stats for the OTA Goliath, and you'll see that it (mistakenly) uses the Diplomat corpse.

Bugfix and UH 2.0 both have this problem corrected, natch.

-BSR

El Bardi · 16 Mar 2000, 10:00 PM

...or use TADD/MC resurrectors, they´re very expensive, but works better.

Iceangel · 16 Mar 2000, 11:51 PM

Heard this all before, and there is another forum for this. I brought up the issue before about the Barrier Walls and posted a stat. on how to rezz them and make them more useful.

http://www.tauniverse.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000663.html#3

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Intuitive · 18 Mar 2000, 6:39 AM

I thought that individual units have individual metal leftovers after they're destroyed?

Shredder · 19 Mar 2000, 12:32 AM

They do, unless the wrong corpse is specified in the FBI!

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Intuitive · 19 Mar 2000, 7:06 AM

Mind telling me what's FBI??

RavenFire · 22 Mar 2000, 1:49 AM

BSR: Knew that... But it's ok, I didn't make it obvious I was referring to OTA specifically.

As for rezzing urban stuff...
I once tried to rezz the big claw-like building, and it crashed the game...

My second most coveted achievement, next in line after the time I managed to get a Game Boy to crash so hard it began spewing hexidecemal error code. That was a true Kodak moment. I wish I coulda seen the face of Nintendo's CEO (had he seen it) when that happened...

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Albino · 1 Apr 2000, 10:19 AM

How'd you crash a GameBoy????
Was it permanent, or did it go
away when you cut the power?

Albino

Iceangel · 1 Apr 2000, 10:23 PM

TA-Power (http://www.unituniverse.com/ta-power/) made a fix for the Necro. It is a much better version!

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14 Mar 2000, 3:52 PM	#1
Bugz_Toon Registered User Join Date: 29 Jan 2000 Location: Three Hills, Alberta, Canada Posts: 1	Core Necro Weirdness Hey- when I installed the Core Necro for the first time (I've since ditched it and gone back to the TADD Soul Reaver), for some unknown reason my Arm Commander could no longer repair or reclaim, but he could resurrect! Also, his D-Gun had been replaced with a Zeus' lightning gun? I reinstalled TA, which took care of it, but has anyone else experienced anything similar? __________________ May the Farce be with you...

15 Mar 2000, 12:26 AM	#2
Razer Registered User Join Date: 15 Feb 2000 Location: Oklahoma Age: 36 Posts: 465	Weeelllll. I don;t know how it happened but It works now. If it works stick with it. Don't give up. ------------------ King of a Hundres Isles Master of the Kimo Wastelands and Son of The King Black Eyes. __________________ You're such a big brat. I write.

15 Mar 2000, 2:16 AM	#4
RavenFire King Drone: Al()ens TC Join Date: 16 Jan 2000 Location: North Bend, WA Posts: 1,339	The Rezz code in CC wasn't really finished up, sorry to say. Cavedog probably just said 'to hell with it', and released the Necro despite the flaws. Try rezzing a goliath. You get a Diplomat. Plus, there are some really weird results if you start trying to rezz some of the stuff like Urban buildings, and some of the other CC features... I managed to bluescreen a Win NT machine I was running TA on once rezzing something on the Urban maps (we were using 3rd party units, too, so it may have been one of those). ------------------ --RavenFire, Member of the TA: Al()ens TC Team. Visit the Al()ens TC at http://ta-aliens.freeservers.com . Come. Embrace the Darkness. __________________ --RavenFire King Drone of the Al()ens TC Come. Embrace the Darkness.

15 Mar 2000, 4:11 AM	#5
Shredder Registered User Join Date: 31 Jan 2000 Location: PA, USA Posts: 189	Hey Babylon5, I've had that problem before too. It seems like what happens is that once the Necro "revives" the unit, which is usually a different size and shape than the corpse, it then is "too close" to the revived unit to do the repair routine so it just sits there! If I then move the Necro away a little bit, it does indeed start repairing the revived unit. How frustrating! Kinda makes queueing up a string of ressurect orders pretty useless. I may be wrong, but that's what it looks like is happening. ------------------ +----------------------------+ Shredder Member of Task Force Author of TA FBI Editor +----------------------------+ __________________ +----------------------------+ Shredder Get TA FBI Editor +----------------------------+

15 Mar 2000, 10:30 AM	#6
Fade Registered User Join Date: 17 Dec 1999 Location: Delft, ZH, Netherlands Posts: 52	The necro's repair range is too small. It can't repair larger units. Enter +showranges , like any other code, and you'll see what I mean. ------------------ Dovie'andi se tovya sagain It's time to roll the dice! ICQ# 36952515 __________________ Dovie'andi se tovya sagain It's time to roll the dice! ICQ# 36952515

15 Mar 2000, 1:06 AM	#3
babylon5 xxx Join Date: 27 Oct 2000 Location: new york Posts: 164	my problem with the necro is that i give it a string of ressurections to do and t would do 1 and then stop and it woulnt fully repair the unit it ressurected

15 Mar 2000, 10:55 AM	#7
Viperion Original. Join Date: 14 Dec 1999 Posts: 1,368	[Shamelessplug]Get Uberhack at www.laughingcrowgraphics.com/BSR It fixes the necro, and a lot of other stuff. [/shamelessplug] The Hyper Viper

15 Mar 2000, 11:41 AM	#8
Dawn Falcon The Fallen Phoenix Join Date: 14 Dec 1999 Location: Babylon 5 Posts: 2,554	And for those of you who don't want to go that far, Switech has a mostly fixed (some bugs seem to be with the EXE code...) version of the Necro in his Mostly Harmless v13 AI, which can be downloaded from TAMEC! I've had even better results with the Necro using the foxed version AND Switech's TA bugfix! ------------------ Dawn Falcon Taskforce: tf.taunits.com "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein __________________ GCU Requiem for e

15 Mar 2000, 4:41 PM	#9
El Bardi Registered User Join Date: 7 Feb 2000 Location: Uruguay--------- Posts: 53	Yeah, also when you´re tryiing to ressurrect dead Oxigen Tileset Explosive barrels, you can get AK´s and Avengers! also you can try rezz the TADD´s barrier Walls, and they come alive! what strange thingies, also, what Urban stuff is ressurrectable? what appears when you rezz them RavenFire????????? __________________ La Ciencia es lo maxximo PD: Viva Linux; Matar a Microsoft!!!

15 Mar 2000, 7:12 PM	#10
Razer Registered User Join Date: 15 Feb 2000 Location: Oklahoma Age: 36 Posts: 465	I use the Necro and it works perfectly fine. Nothing goes wrong. ------------------ King of a Hundres Isles Master of the Kimo Wastelands and Son of The King Black Eyes. [This message has been edited by Razer (edited March 15, 2000).] __________________ You're such a big brat. I write.

16 Mar 2000, 12:55 AM	#11
babylon5 xxx Join Date: 27 Oct 2000 Location: new york Posts: 164	the 3rd party ressurecter woks better thats what i use now but in tauip for core they only use the necro cant que up any rezz orders for it here a number of 3rd party units that ressurect like the omega commander and the core engineer so there are options if u use 3rd party unit

16 Mar 2000, 4:07 PM	#12
Brave Sir Robin In the City of Heroes Join Date: 26 Oct 2000 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 3,833	Quick note to RavenFire: the rezzing-Gols-and-getting-Diplomats problem is a bug in the Goliath, not in the rez code. Check the stats for the OTA Goliath, and you'll see that it (mistakenly) uses the Diplomat corpse. Bugfix and UH 2.0 both have this problem corrected, natch. -BSR

16 Mar 2000, 10:00 PM	#13
El Bardi Registered User Join Date: 7 Feb 2000 Location: Uruguay--------- Posts: 53	...or use TADD/MC resurrectors, they´re very expensive, but works better. __________________ La Ciencia es lo maxximo PD: Viva Linux; Matar a Microsoft!!!

16 Mar 2000, 11:51 PM	#14
Iceangel Registered User Join Date: 20 Dec 1999 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 298	Heard this all before, and there is another forum for this. I brought up the issue before about the Barrier Walls and posted a stat. on how to rezz them and make them more useful. http://www.tauniverse.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000663.html#3 ------------------ -- The Iceman -- ICQ# 23508164 -- May the Core Consciousness be with you! __________________ -- The Iceman -- ICQ# 23508164 -- Anime is my Blood -- May the Core Consciousness be with you!

18 Mar 2000, 6:39 AM	#15
Intuitive Registered User Join Date: 17 Mar 2000 Posts: 43	I thought that individual units have individual metal leftovers after they're destroyed? __________________ The eternal battle of the Arm and the Core, but what is this eternity compared to the universe??

19 Mar 2000, 12:32 AM	#16
Shredder Registered User Join Date: 31 Jan 2000 Location: PA, USA Posts: 189	They do, unless the wrong corpse is specified in the FBI! ------------------ +----------------------------+ Shredder Member of Task Force Author of TA FBI Editor +----------------------------+ __________________ +----------------------------+ Shredder Get TA FBI Editor +----------------------------+

19 Mar 2000, 7:06 AM	#17
Intuitive Registered User Join Date: 17 Mar 2000 Posts: 43	Mind telling me what's FBI?? __________________ The eternal battle of the Arm and the Core, but what is this eternity compared to the universe??

22 Mar 2000, 1:49 AM	#18
RavenFire King Drone: Al()ens TC Join Date: 16 Jan 2000 Location: North Bend, WA Posts: 1,339	BSR: Knew that... But it's ok, I didn't make it obvious I was referring to OTA specifically. As for rezzing urban stuff... I once tried to rezz the big claw-like building, and it crashed the game... My second most coveted achievement, next in line after the time I managed to get a Game Boy to crash so hard it began spewing hexidecemal error code. That was a true Kodak moment. I wish I coulda seen the face of Nintendo's CEO (had he seen it) when that happened... ------------------ --RavenFire, Member of the TA: Al()ens TC Team. Visit the Al()ens TC at http://ta-aliens.freeservers.com . Come. Embrace the Darkness. __________________ --RavenFire King Drone of the Al()ens TC Come. Embrace the Darkness.

1 Apr 2000, 10:19 AM	#19
Albino Registered User Join Date: 31 Mar 2000 Posts: 68	How'd you crash a GameBoy???? Was it permanent, or did it go away when you cut the power? Albino __________________ 'Twas the night before Christmas, when a duck hit the sled...

1 Apr 2000, 10:23 PM	#20
Iceangel Registered User Join Date: 20 Dec 1999 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 298	TA-Power (http://www.unituniverse.com/ta-power/) made a fix for the Necro. It is a much better version! ------------------ -- The Iceman -- ICQ# 23508164 -- May the Core Consciousness be with you! __________________ -- The Iceman -- ICQ# 23508164 -- Anime is my Blood -- May the Core Consciousness be with you!